VACCINES
& AUTISM: Myths and Misconceptions
Interview
with Roy Richard Grinker
Author of Unstrange Minds: Remapping the World of
Autism
BENJAMIN RADFORD
Benjamin
Radford has investigated ghosts, psychics, lake monsters, UFOs, mass hysterias,
and many other paranormal phenomena for over a decade. He is the author or co-author
of three books; his latest (with fellow investigator Joe Nickell) is Lake Monster
Mysteries: Investigating the World's Most Elusive Creatures. His Web site is at
www.RadfordBooks.com.
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There
are many myths and much pseudoscience surrounding the diseases now called autism.
Some have to do with vaccines, as the pieces by Steven Novella and Richard Judelsohn
discuss in this special section. Other myths include the long-discredited practice
of facilitated communication, in which facilitators help illiterate
autistic children type out words and sentencesas well as occasional unfounded
accusations of abuse. Yet many myths and questions remain, especially related
to the prevalence and underlying diagnosis of autism.
In
a new book on autism, Roy Richard Grinker (a professor of anthropology at George
Washington University and himself the parent of an autistic daughter) examines
the disease from a social and anthropological perspective. Here is an interview
based on his book Unstrange Minds: Remapping the World of Autism.
How
did you first become interested in the subject of autism?
I
wear two hats. I am an anthropologist and the father of a child with autism. So,
as autism awareness grew, more and more people said, So youre an anthropologist,
what does autism look like in other cultures? Is the prevalence the same as it
is here? What do people do about it? I wrote Unstrange Minds so that people
can see that autism is universal and that autism awareness is increasing everywhere
in the world. But the most important reason for writing the bookthough this
was not my original intentionwas to tell the world a simple message: the
increase in autism diagnoses is not a crisis but rather evidence that were
finally beginning to address a kind of human difference that has for too long
been misunderstood, misdiagnosed, and mismanaged. More than six decades after
autism was first described by Leo Kanner, were finally getting it right,
and counting it right.
Why
do you challenge the idea that autism is an epidemic?
Because
so many Americans and Europeans are in a panic that there is a true epidemic,
and that if there is an epidemic there must be some new, identifiable cause out
there somewhere to be found and eradicated. I thought I could articulate some
of the cultural and scientific reasons behind the increase in rates and give a
positive message: the higher rates are due to positive changes in the way we understand
and treat neurological and psychiatric disorders.
If
autism is not an epidemic, how did it come to be viewed as one?
Autism
became viewed as an epidemic for the same reason there have been fears of epidemics
of other illnesses: there is a dramatic increase in prevalence. But prevalence
is just the number of cases counted at a particular point in time and is not evidence
of true increases in a disease. The same happened with melanoma and prostate cancer.
There were huge increases in prevalence in those diseases, because they were being
diagnosed so much more (skin cancer, due to increased awareness and more biopsies
of early stage cancers; prostate cancer because of the invention of the PSA blood
test, as opposed to the painful method of inserting a tool through the tip of
the penis all the way to the prostate). It really is confusing to see diagnosis
rates of three or four in ten thousand twenty years ago change to rates of 1 in
150. On the surface it sounds frightening.
So
its the publics lack of understanding about the methodology?
I
think scientists have not done a good job of explaining to the public that comparing
these rates is like comparing apples and oranges. The rates in, say, 1980, were
derived using a narrow definition of autism and using administrative statistics
(mostly numbers of kids enrolled in programs under the category of autism)
at a time when autism was not a popular diagnosis. Todays rates are derived
using a very broad definition of autism (people from the severely mentally retarded
to people who marry and hold jobs and may even be college professors) and using
reliable and valid measurements that have only recently been developed.
In
Korea, where Im doing an epidemiological study, we cannot even try to use
administrative statistics, because autism is unpopular as a diagnosis. If you
used the enrollment figures, youd think autism was almost nonexistent in
Korea. Yet, were finding rates not out of line with the rest of the world.
Second, the increased awareness has meant that people see autism morethe
decreased stigma has helped too, since people dont hide their kids anymore.
So it feels like an epidemic. But a feeling is different from science.
So
what accounts for the apparent increase in the prevalence of autism?
They
are described carefully in my book: new epidemiological methods yield many more
cases; a much larger number of people are being diagnosed with autism today because
autism is a spectrum that can include the profoundly mentally retarded person
but also a brilliant scientist; more and more physicians are giving the diagnosis
and then kids are being coded in the school system with autism (some epidemiologists
who do records-based research then rely on the school records for their information);
people who were once called mentally retarded or schizophrenic or a host of other
things are now being diagnosed with autism. There is no single factor among all
of these that trumps the others, but I think the least understood is the change
in epidemiological methods.
What
do you think are the biggest misconceptions that the public has about autism?
One
misconception is that we need to have an epidemic to call attention
to a disorder. Some parents and philanthropic organizations have called me a traitor
and accused me of betraying the autism community. On the one hand, I dont
agree with the way philanthropic organizations have fueled the fears of an epidemic.
An epidemic is a useful fiction for fundraising. On the other hand, the organizations
do so much for autism awareness, research, and services that sometimes I feel
a little guilty, as if by telling the truth some people might be less likely to
give money. But that guilt is fleeting.
The
reality is that (1) the higher rates mean that autism is a bigger public health
issue than we ever realized; and (2) there is nothing mutually exclusive about
saying theres no epidemic and at the same saying that weve finally
figured out whats going on with people on the autism spectrum, and we need
more research and services. I recently received an e-mail from a parent who decried
my stance: How can you say there is no epidemic of autism? she wrote.
When I was in school, there were no kids with special needs in my school.
Today, in my daughters school there are dozens. Actually, that is
my point. In the past autistic people were not included in our schools. Today
they are. And thats a very good thing.
Another
big misconception is that autism is somehow new. I am frequently asked: If there
is no epidemic, then where are all the adults with autism? The answer is easy,
but also complicated. Finding adults with autism is very hard, not because they
do not exist but because they are dispersed in our society. Some live in group
homes, others in institutions, others are living and working among us in our everyday
lives. Kids are easy to count because they are all in school, neatly recorded
in school records. But adults are a different story. Counting adults with autism
would be like trying to count adults with speech and language disorders. You can
count kids, but where would we find the adults? So many people with speech and
language disorders dont get speech services as adultstheyve
learned to adjust, adapt, and manage. No one missed or ignored
autistic people in the past. They were just called something else, or in some
cases (like people with Aspergers) called nothing at all.
An
additional misconception is that an environmental factor equals an environmental
toxin. Environment probably plays some very small role in causing autism, but
environment can mean everything in the world, from chemicals, to our diet and
way of life. No environmental factor has yet been identified by scientists to
account for autism, let alone changes in autism prevalence. Looking for environmental
factors in autism at this stage in our knowledge is really like looking for needles
in haystacks.
Why
do you think the news media have engaged in such misleading and alarmist coverage
about autism?
Fear,
panic, and deep parental concern get a lot of attention. Compare the two messages:
Theres an epidemic and we dont know what is causing it!
and More people are being diagnosed with autism today because we understand
it better. Plus, autism in the news is usually about autism in children
(despite the fact that autistic children grow into adults), and children are very
engaging as television, radio, and newspaper subjects. Advocacy by organizations
whose membership is convinced there is an epidemic caused by an environmental
toxin has been well funded and supported by politicians, especially by politicians
in the states with the most autism services (and hence, because of those services,
the highest rates of diagnosis).
What
has been the reaction to your book, both by medical professionals and by parents
of autistic children?
The
scientific community, from what I can tell so far, supports my work strongly (e.g.,
reviews in Nature and the New England Journal of Medicine). Much of what Im
saying about the reasons for the so-called epidemic has been said before in scientific
journals. What Ive done is to put all those arguments together and place
them in a larger context of American social change in a way that is accessible
to a wide audience. The fact that the book is being reviewed in both scientific
journals and in the popular press, such as People magazine, is an indication to
me that Ive succeeded in reaching a large readership. Among parents of children
with autism, the reception has been mixed. Many, many parents find Unstrange Minds
to be inspiring because I talk about how many families in the world have turned
something potentially devastating into something uplifting and rewarding. Others
have sent me hate mail and left angry telephone messages on my answering machine
at work. I have been called every kind of name.
What
does the science suggest are the causes of autism?
There
are probably several different kinds of autism caused by several different genetic
pathways. There may be, in total, several dozen different genes involved. Scientists
at Cold Springs Harbor Laboratory in New York have generated one of the most interesting
genetic models, suggesting that some cases are heritable, but usually over the
span of a couple of generations through a nonaffected carrier, and other cases
are de novo mutations. But the bottom line is: it is largely genetic, so much
so that environment probably plays [only] a small role. One way scientists estimate
the role of genetics in a certain disorder is to look at concordance of that disorder
in identical twins, that is, two people with identical DNA. The concordance, or
percentage of people with identical DNA who both suffer from an autism spectrum
disorder, is as high as 90 percent in some studies. Thats higher than the
concordance for coronary artery disease, depression, or breast cancer. Then, when
the scientists look at fraternal twins, who dont have the same DNA, they
find a concordance as low as 0 percent and as high as 10 percent. That makes ASD
strongly genetic.
If
autism is partly genetic, should there be prenatal testing to determine if a fetus
is autistic?
That
is a huge ethical question, but perhaps its premature. We know that schizophrenia,
bipolar disorder, breast cancer, and many other disorders have a strong genetic
component, but they cannot be tested for in the womb. Multigenic complex disorders
are very different from, say, Down syndrome, which is an identifiable mutation
in which there is extra genetic material (a twenty-first chromosome), so it can
be tested for. Autism is a totally different kind of condition.
In
explaining how disease diagnosis is culturally dependent, you draw from many cultures
and countries, including the Navajo and family lines in China and Peru. What are
two of the most vivid examples in your mind?
The
Korean case is one of the most fascinating to me. This is a country in which scientists
and doctors and government officials have said that autism is a rare or nearly
nonexistent disorder in Korea. The school and clinic records support that contention,
because one seldom finds any mention of anyone with autism. Autism,
when it is diagnosed, is highly stigmatizing because it is seen as a genetic disorder.
If a disorder is genetic, the family feels that the entire family is damaged,
and this brings shame and stigma. So parents would rather see themselves as bad
parents who caused autism in their child through bad parenting than see the disorder
as genetic. This is the opposite of what happened in the U.S., where mothers and
fathers used to be blamed, but we now see the disorder as genetic. At any rate,
I went into Korea with a team of epidemiologists and psychiatrists and psychologists,
and we have screened thirty thousand kids and done extensive testing. And were
finding lots of autism. The kids just are not called autistic. They are undiagnosed
or diagnosed with something else. So, in Korea, were seeing a culturally
different version of what has already happened in the U.S. and higher prevalence
rates in Korea are on their way: not because autism is new as a condition, but
because autism is new as a concept.